I'm sorry but I've grown using fox farm ocean forest for over 10yrs. My hydro produces 2x the amount with zero complications and zero deficiencies. Fox farm is for beginners. Clean your drain pans fyi. No disrespect.
Led poisoning from the lights is what I call the red stems if you move it to a hps light it goes away too some strains get led poisoning has no affect on the plant
Have you done a comparison on breaking up the root ball and not breaking it on root bound plants?? I dont like to break up the root ball it seems to much for me. If you haven't you could also try soaking the root ball in water to let them loosen naturally. You would pull the plant out of it's one gallon and soak for a little bit while preparing the next size pot. I would like to see the difference but with 3 plant max for some places. Might sound silly but about how tall or maybe a number of nods are your plants when you take them from veg to flower? As well as when they finish?
what a waste. they should be twice the size and not be as anemic. the solution? fabric pots. oh and dont wait as long as this? the plant in the coco shouldve been transplanted two weeks earlier than he did. and if you dont know, topping your plant would make them much fuller
If you where to just water them with plain water with right oh the soil one will grow all the way but the coco one would not because soil carries calcium and magnesium etc… when the coco has no nutrients so feeding them the same is really not feeding them the same you fell me
objectively the pot in soil is getting more nutrients/ferts due to the nutrients that came with the soil.
quote from advancednutrients dot com
"Can lock out calcium, magnesium and iron: Because of its high cation exchange rate, coco coir stores and releases nutrients as needed, but it tends to hold calcium, magnesium and iron. This means you’ll need use specific coco coir nutrients to boost Ca, Mg and Fe levels for healthy crops."
not sure if this grow is still going but would love to see how extra calcium, magnesium and iron ferts ( the the right nutes/ph to unlock said nutes) would bring up the coco coir grow.
either way would love to see the same experiment on a new grow with extra needed nutes on coco coir
would also be interesting to see soil/coco test to see levels of nutrients
This is a good comparison but what I would like to know is what kind of Coco you started with in the first place because some Coco is extremely salty and will cause lock out. I used to use ocean forest with great results and then I switched to good brand name Cocoa and had explosive results. It just depends on the Coco you're using
Red petioles, IV heard can be an indication of Phosphorus lacking. Which I do hear can be influenced by CalMag or Calcium issues. But Phosphorus was the thing I was expecting to hear mentioned.
And something to consider experimenting with to reduce that redness.
WIZARDNPK JUST SO YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT COCO VS SOIL THIS IS COCO/PERLITE VERSUS SOIL. HUUUUUUUGE DIFFERENCE YOU SHOULD TRY NOT USING PERLITE. CHEERS
I'm sorry but I've grown using fox farm ocean forest for over 10yrs. My hydro produces 2x the amount with zero complications and zero deficiencies. Fox farm is for beginners. Clean your drain pans fyi. No disrespect.
Wizard NPK I wanted to know MORE ABOUT GROWING WEED OUTSIDE ALEIN OG
The purpleing is good my friend shows you starch it's on the March don't cover it let it be, get bigger bud
The leafs are droopping you are over water ring
all i can say is that plant will grow in soil without any nutrients,but not in coco!!!
All these growers sound like squeakers barely of age. Why so much perlite? I think i'll try 25% perlite 75% coco coir.
obv the soil will win if your feeding them the same lol
You spoke straight facts about the root zone (rhizosphere) being more like a web and not having big denser roots. 💯🔥
Led poisoning from the lights is what I call the red stems if you move it to a hps light it goes away too some strains get led poisoning has no affect on the plant
Why didnt you start in the 5 gallon?
Have you done a comparison on breaking up the root ball and not breaking it on root bound plants?? I dont like to break up the root ball it seems to much for me. If you haven't you could also try soaking the root ball in water to let them loosen naturally. You would pull the plant out of it's one gallon and soak for a little bit while preparing the next size pot. I would like to see the difference but with 3 plant max for some places. Might sound silly but about how tall or maybe a number of nods are your plants when you take them from veg to flower? As well as when they finish?
what a waste. they should be twice the size and not be as anemic. the solution? fabric pots. oh and dont wait as long as this? the plant in the coco shouldve been transplanted two weeks earlier than he did. and if you dont know, topping your plant would make them much fuller
If you where to just water them with plain water with right oh the soil one will grow all the way but the coco one would not because soil carries calcium and magnesium etc… when the coco has no nutrients so feeding them the same is really not feeding them the same you fell me
great experiment, real useful to see.
objectively the pot in soil is getting more nutrients/ferts due to the nutrients that came with the soil.
quote from advancednutrients dot com
"Can lock out calcium, magnesium and iron: Because of its high cation exchange rate, coco coir stores and releases nutrients as needed, but it tends to hold calcium, magnesium and iron. This means you’ll need use specific coco coir nutrients to boost Ca, Mg and Fe levels for healthy crops."
not sure if this grow is still going but would love to see how extra calcium, magnesium and iron ferts ( the the right nutes/ph to unlock said nutes) would bring up the coco coir grow.
either way would love to see the same experiment on a new grow with extra needed nutes on coco coir
would also be interesting to see soil/coco test to see levels of nutrients
keep at it 😉
why would you not add soil before stepping up? roots arent gonna grow up lol
Not feeding the coco enough, it aint soil
Obviously the coco plant will do better, your nutes are feeding the roots where as the soil not doing as much, you need a organic amendment line!!!
Hey Wizard NPK, I’m growing in oceanforest with RO water. Did you add calmag with every watering when you did this comparison???
If I use my homemade nutrients and compost as well as organic soil in my garden to grow my bud would I still need to flush towards the end
You're overfeeding the soil plant dummy
Both shit looking plants.
Should have used same strain and same genetics
Cool
Looks like a sativa structure with indica leaves
WHAT DOES THE LEAF COLOR BEING DIFFERENT INDICATE?? MAYBE DO A VID TALKING ABOUT LEAF COLOR CHANGES AND WHAT THEY COULD MEAN
Is there a specific technique to make the roots feather like this or is it dependent on strains or other variables?Thanks for the no nonsense video
Red stems could be too cold in dark period
soil looks more healthy
man… these are some bad practices. that room looks like a mold issue just waiting to happen.
2:57
Isn't it phosphorus that the plant is lacking when the stems go purple?
This is a good comparison but what I would like to know is what kind of Coco you started with in the first place because some Coco is extremely salty and will cause lock out. I used to use ocean forest with great results and then I switched to good brand name Cocoa and had explosive results. It just depends on the Coco you're using
The ocean forest looks alittle nicer to me.
The red and purple Anthocyanins are a response to uv light.
I mix coco and a high compost soil. Use smart pots. Root balls get very dense and not root bound at all.
ill be interested to see how they both develop and compare , cheers
6:30 Realy. Your grow room is a disease. Clean your shit man.
You shouldn't be giving the soil and coco the same amount of chems and nuttrs lol
Hey.please send me a link to purchase the runoff trays.
Mixing the fox farm with the coco works great. I've seen the purpling of the stems and have seen Calmac clear it up.
Coco is soil tf
5 months later i can't find the results video…..
Were they clones? If they were different seeds then this experiment doesn’t work.
But is it bad to be darker green
Would be interesting to see a grow with worm castings please
Red petioles, IV heard can be an indication of Phosphorus lacking. Which I do hear can be influenced by CalMag or Calcium issues. But Phosphorus was the thing I was expecting to hear mentioned.
And something to consider experimenting with to reduce that redness.
How do you water your young plants in soil with ro water??? Bluelab told me you cannot adjust the ph with plain ro water.
High mfker he said he will put the link and description but forgot LOL